View Full Version : Abortion, a clash of morals? [BE AWARE THIS THREAD CONTAINS GRAPHIC IMAGES]
-:undertaker:-
25-07-08, 21:27 PM
Abortion, a clash of morals?
Abortion is the removal of a baby from a womans womb. This may be because of a number of factors; the woman doesn't want a baby, the baby may have a condition, the woman wants a career, the father has left and the baby was the product of a fling, the mother doesn't have the funds to raise a baby and doesn't want the baby to live in poverty - there are more reasons but these are the main factors.
The reasons against abortion is that it is basically state murder of perfectly fine human beings, and that all humans have a right to life. The reasons for are that it prevents the baby living in poverty/being put up for adoption.
Below are some graphic images of aborted babies, however I feel it is nessacery to post these as the debate is over real people and real lives.
http://www.davidmacd.com/images/fetus08.jpg
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/aborted%20baby.jpg
Do you believe abortion should be allowed, or should the limit for abortion be lowered? Debate and discuss this moral topic here.
pixal-artist
25-07-08, 21:34 PM
poor things
oh a debate on my level
there was a programme not too long ago about abortions, and it showed you the REAL story.
Up to a certain amount of weeks, an injection can kill the foetus, however after that point, doctors have to crush up the baby to remove it from the womb. you may aswell torture both the mother and the foetus?
abortion is easy for men to say in most cases, and in some, easy for girls, until they go through it. it damages you mentally when you go through some abortion situations, and it isnt a pretty sight.
these days, girls usually get pregnant again within the year because of the guilt of killing their previous.
religious beliefs, mainly catholics, do not allow abortion, UNLESS it is the lesser of 2 evils (the mother will die if the foetus is born) or in cases of rape and mental instability.
in my opinion, i would rather have the baby, and try my very best to love and care for it. If i feel that i cannot do this, then i would find a family, wanting / needing a child, but cannot have one for their own.
a lot of things are better than death and destruction.
however, i am not against the morning after pill, as the egg would not have started growing / forming this quick.
I think the abortion limit should be changed to 11 weeks at the most, mainly because thats when the foetus has a heart beat and has formed, as you can see on the image above
I think abortions should be allowed due to the fact if they arnt make abortions 'illegal' and no longer done by the NHS the ammount of back street abortions will go sky high.
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I think abortions should be allowed due to the fact if they arnt make abortions 'illegal' and no longer done by the NHS the ammount of back street abortions will go sky high.
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yeah i agree, and the fact that people will endanger their own lives with the way its done, just like years ago, many women bled to death due to unsuccessful illegal abortions.
I dont think abortion should be allowed, if the parents dont want the baby they put it up for adoption. I was eating when I saw those images D:.
NO TO ABORTION!
No, its shouldnt be allowed :[
if it wasnt allowed, back street abortions would come about again.
more people will die either through having kids (sometimes it doesn endanger the mother, even today and abortions prevent that if the doctors know). also people will kill themselves through backstreet abortions if they go wrong, like they used too.
not only this, many parents that are too young or incapable of looking after children will end up neglecting their kids or end up living in poverty, and those kids can suffer. that isnt right. abortion also prevents this.
women know if they can look after a child or not, and if they are ready. if they arnt, they COULD have the child and put it up for adoption, or it can go to a foster home, but if they TRY to look after their kids, and dont too well and the authorities take them away, some of the kids never get placed perminently, which can also effect the kids. not all foster / adoption stories have a happy ending. and if that were to happen, social services would be rushed even more off their feet!
Inseriousity.
26-07-08, 15:04 PM
Although I do agree that abortions need to be legal to avoid any further problems, I watched a do***entary called the Silent Scream where as someone pointed out, it was after the due date and they crushed it. You could see this baby squirming for poor life, which it never got the chance to live. so yes, I am against abortions... :(
Although I do agree that abortions need to be legal to avoid any further problems, I watched a do***entary called the Silent Scream where as someone pointed out, it was after the due date and they crushed it. You could see this baby squirming for poor life, which it never got the chance to live. so yes, I am against abortions... :(
yeah thats the doc i was on about
i never watched it, it'd scar me for life, but my mum n sister watched some, and had to turn it off, it was so horrific.
my sisters were "accidents" - other words unplanned babies, and my mother kept them. She thought she was too young to have kids but she still kept them, and in some cases, like ours, she is capable of looking after us, so the exscuse "im too young" sometimes isnt very acceptable, unless they are a lot younger and will give the mother internal damage.
yeah thats the doc i was on about
i never watched it, it'd scar me for life, but my mum n sister watched some, and had to turn it off, it was so horrific.
my sisters were "accidents" - other words unplanned babies, and my mother kept them. She thought she was too young to have kids but she still kept them, and in some cases, like ours, she is capable of looking after us, so the exscuse "im too young" sometimes isnt very acceptable, unless they are a lot younger and will give the mother internal damage.
Good point.
FunnyJackers
29-07-08, 03:26 AM
Oh my god, what are they?
That's looks awful
Oh my god, what are they?
That's looks awful
Babys, Silent scream is ment to be revolting
first of all, i beg you to take the pictures off. The sight of blood can make me faint and im as screamish as hell.
And, abortion is one of the trickiest subjects in modern society, sometimes I believe if the mothers life is at risk from the one faetus/baby she carries, then it is often wise to spare the mothers life, only if she can get pregnant again without risk etc.
Though i do believe life starts at conception, because it does grow etc from that day forth, most of the time i'd say spare the baby, let it live, dont rip it out, but if the mother is a teenager and the parents won't let her keep it, it is often more traumatising to have to go through the adoption process.
I do wish though, that they shortened the number of weeks you have to be within your pregnancy in order to allow an abortion, they can survive easily at 24 weeks etc now.
Oh my god, what are they?
That's looks awful
the things that grow inside girls
the things careless boys and girls can cause
and the things that many people kill, because they dont think twice.
I do wish though, that they shortened the number of weeks you have to be within your pregnancy in order to allow an abortion, they can survive easily at 24 weeks etc now.
I think the government was talking about lowering it..
they can survive easily.. but not fully.
abortion, if left too late, can seriously damage the babies. they're still born, and maybe born alive. but they'll be lucky if they can ever be deemed as "normal" by the society.
if theres one thing worse than death, its living and being an outcast from everybody, knowing your different, your parents tried to abort you and it didnt work, having a feeling in the pit of your stomach that they didnt want you, and not being able to lead a normal life.
the reason why i would never abort a baby, is because i plan things well. i scheme well, and a plan failed and i got pregnant, than i would start planning a whole lifetime ahead of me, because i may be 17 years old, with an imcome of £30 EMA, doing a-levels, but i'd find a way to make it work and id find a way to take good care of my child.
i'd be able to move to my dads where there is a bigger bedroom, more room for a cot, less people to wake up when the baby cries. if it was right now, i'd look into college courses and see if theres something i can do that can get me to the right career i want, with paying me and funding so i had money to buy my baby food and the neccessities it needed. if i couldnt, i'd try getting a full time job. or atleast part time. if i had afternoon work, my dad will be in the house to look after my baby whilst im earning money. when it starts nursery, it can be an afternoon child so my dad has my baby for less time. when it starts school i can get a job suting the right hours.
id have so much support from my family i know that for a fact. my mother acts all harsh and stuff about it, but she'd never make me abort, or even encourage it. my sisters love kids, my older sister is a godparent of 2 already.
so i think people similar to me, do not have a reason for an abortion. if they dont feel attached to their child and really do not want it, theres many families out there who want a child but cannot reproduce. makes sense doesnt it?
Flisker
31-07-08, 09:58 AM
I agree with Acqua's first post... I don't really wanna see someone die because they shuve knitting needles up there noonie and miss badly then die... its just horrid... them pictures really make you think about that poor human (well soon to be) whos selfish mother didnt want the baby because she wants to live life to te full kinda thing...
God knows what ive just said... Hope it makes sense and i dunno what all the ... is about...
I agree with Acqua's first post... I don't really wanna see someone die because they shuve knitting needles up there noonie and miss badly then die... its just horrid... them pictures really make you think about that poor human (well soon to be) whos selfish mother didnt want the baby because she wants to live life to te full kinda thing...
God knows what ive just said... Hope it makes sense and i dunno what all the ... is about...
I agree....
Flisker
31-07-08, 14:08 PM
Thank you for agreeing with me xD
-:undertaker:-
31-07-08, 16:09 PM
It should be allowed but the limit lowered, as I have read of stories where the aborted baby was sceaming as it is pulled out of the womb - that is terrible.
and boys still think they have it hard...
Abortions, no. They are basicly cruel.
Why kill your kin? Is it fair? No, it is cruel.
Mind you, if you are still in school, then it's perfectly reasonable to have an abortion :|
Flisker
31-07-08, 20:40 PM
With all these teenage pregnacies going on i think something has to be done.
Mind you, if you are still in school, then it's perfectly reasonable to have an abortion :|
er why?
just cos someone is still in school doesnt mean its reasonable.
if they are fit to be mothers, if their family give the right support, if their family have a good financial status, then why have an abortion?
if you can support it and give it a good loving home, then theres no need for an abortion
Flisker
02-08-08, 07:44 AM
er why?
just cos someone is still in school doesnt mean its reasonable.
if they are fit to be mothers, if their family give the right support, if their family have a good financial status, then why have an abortion?
if you can support it and give it a good loving home, then theres no need for an abortion
Tap thatt.
A girl in my school was pregnant and people had there suspicons but in 6 weeks shes due to have it, Wow.
when i was still in school i bet with my 2 friends that a certain girl would be pregnant straight away cos she always said she wanted a kid.
now, my 2 are the ones that are pregnant / have had a kid, and that girl i was talking about, hasnt been pregnant yet.
you cant predict whats gunna happen i suppose.
when i was still in school i bet with my 2 friends that a certain girl would be pregnant straight away cos she always said she wanted a kid.
now, my 2 are the ones that are pregnant / have had a kid, and that girl i was talking about, hasnt been pregnant yet.
you cant predict whats gunna happen i suppose.
Weirddddddddddd
-loved-
14-08-08, 22:06 PM
i'm not going to say my views because i would get very personal
LatexCondom
25-08-08, 12:30 PM
it's blooming sick ill give u that =[
i dunno how doctors can stand doing it too though. its probably one of the worst jobs in the world
I agree. Its not the best job to have but someone has to do it Steph
yeah thats true i suppose
i dont like blood and guts full stop, so any kind of surgery aint my job :P
Elliott
30-08-08, 00:32 AM
Lets just say, if i was to get a girl pregnant now, abortion would be out of the question, i think its sick immoral, especially when there are so many alternatives, such as Social Care.
well its a question of the lesser evil really :] so its up to whoever has the child but O_o it depends on their situation